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Back to the hard lot of sports journalists, a live Bobby Orr is a godsend to the American broadcasters who must now strive nobly to translate hockey to the Americans they hope will be watching, and in some cases to understand it themselves. I think we'll see him interviewed and talked about more than when he was playing. At least that will refute the rumour started on an obscure website, that he was dead!

Thanks for the clips. Eddie got such a kick out of that show. Falk was just great. The guest stars usually acted him off the screen, as did Lindsay Crouse here, but he seemed to relish it.

Yes, let's ask him. He cannot predict the future of a sports championship series, as he has proven in front of the entire continent. Bruins are toast. It's OOOUUURRR GAME!!!!!

Neil: With Dr. Demonic's blow job affectation, out of the pure respect that I personally have to the act, could you possibly select a different descriptive gerund? Adam chortling with my infantile mind lol Adam, you are really on your game today. Though I fear you will never be quite Respectable.

Neil, Those goiterous kitties made me LO really L. Carol Cat lover Wait a minute, I respondedto what I assumed a felicitous quip, but maybe there really were such videos. If I'd seen them I don't know if I would have laughed or not, it isn't nice to mock the afflicted.

All -"conclusions if validated" is valid enough - these could be statistics of the damned lie variety for all I know. And it is Harvard we're talking about here. I was thinking of your own gloomy last-nail-in-coffin conclusions. I'm not avoiding the links, honest. Well, I won't anymore. I know it's discourteous to refer to things without providing the standard way for you to check them out. I could say that incorporating this will wreak havoc with the style of my deathless prose,and overtax my frail technological constitution. However a mainstay of said style is laziness, which you've probably noticed, and I exert that all the time elsewhere, so I won't feel the loss too much. It's been said that writing must evoke and provoke. (Sorry, I don't know by whom, maybe I even thought it up myself though I doubt it). It doesn't have to do both, but it must to one of them.In some of my posts I have evoked the reader's curiosity about a reference enough to provoke them to look it up themselves, but now I know the game is up. It's been a pretty good run.

I heard that it was stalled till more pledges come in.

Somehow I knew you would say that.

Great anecdote. Fascinating, I thought (or assumed) that the salt thing was a Anglo-Saxon or Celtic (I had some very, very superstitious relatives). Didn't know it was in Russia too. I better go check on Bobby, just in case.

The increasing polarization of wealth in the US concerns Republicans and Democrats equally. A Financial Post article by Diane Francis yesterday reported a survey taken by a Harvard Business School professor, regarding distribution of wealth. Reps and Dems were asked what percentage of the nation's wealth is, or should be, in the hands of the richest - defined for this survey as 20%. How much should this group of "Haves" have, leaving the rests of the money for the other 4/5 of the population? 32%, everyone responded. How much do they actually have? 59%, everyone guessed. I'm aware that of course the each respndent did not choose those exact figures - they'd be arrived at through whatever statistical method was being used. Probably I should not venture into poll report territory, when I have not looked up the original study and would not understand its methodology if I did. But I did want to comment on this one because first, I was surprised to find that the "should" 32% was so low - I'd have expected a higher figure on that one. And second, that the difference between what people thought the "is" figure was and what it actually is, is striking. The actual number is 84%.

Adam, Bobby is not a Ghost yet, he's very alive! He isn't even sick! Quick, throw some salt over your left shoulder or something!

Brant, This Scrabble post makes no sense, let alone the inane postscript. Why is it that I feel I totally understand it then? You trying to be smart or something?

Well, no blood, no foul. I assume that you did not see the movie. That makes it hard to yea-say or thumbs-down on the original post. I did see it. And I have commented both directly and via the "GWTW" thread. If you look at The Wizard of Oz, Moby Dick, LOTR, or any other famous books later made into a movie (or like one of my favorites, Pride and Prejudice, remade often); if you look at Ayn Rand's own screenplay of The Fountainhead; you realize that Atlas Shrugged was a stunning piece of work, faithful to the original, yet translating it correctly into the medium. Could it have been done otherwise? Yes, indeed! Done better? No doubt. But did anyone else do that? Is there another version to compare it to? You know, I have both a PC and Mac. I am a PC user because I am a command-line guy: I can program in hex and I don't need Windows or GUIs. But, really, why would I criticize the fundamentals of something I could not have created? I am happy with both for what they offer and I am grateful to the people who created them for me. Same with this. No, I haven't seen it, I don't think it showed anywhere in Canada. My only opinion on the whole subject is that having reading the novel, I think it could be a terrific movie. But what novel couldn't, in the right hands. Brant wrote somewhere here that AS was actually a written movie, not a novel, and that was the shrewdest comment I have seen. I meant to reply and agree with him, so Brant if you read this, I think you're right. IMO the movie would have Orson Welles as director, be black and white, and Rand would have had to keep her mitts off, like that would ever happen. But there we are..this is the kind of discussion that prompted this whole thread. It is the politics that XRay (and I)were interested in learning more about, and you have helped us do that. I can't make even a speculative judgment about a movie I haven't seen, -- not just from principle, but because I have done it in the past and made a fool of myself thereby, also missed out on some good entertainment.There are some reviewers I almost always agree with, and I have skipped movies because of their negative reactions, but also seen the panned movies later and liked them.The major example I remember is Barry Lyndon, very long ago, I forget which respected reviewer trashed it, but I loved it. So I look forward to the Atlas movie on TV, I do not have a DVD player.

Oh, oh, I fear it might. I revere Orr so much (not just for his hockey, he's just a mensch). There is a lot of fun commentary up here about the unconscionable length of time to wait now for the final, even though the teams are decided. They have a point, it is unconscionable, but what the sportswriters are really grousing about is, now they have to turn out a hockey story every single day for a whole week, when absolutely nothing is going on in hockey.They'll have to actually do interviews and think up angles and check facts themselves and work fairly hard, they can't coast, because the readers are bored waiting and will expect good articles to wile away the time. I feel for them. But they knew what they were getting into, this is Canada. Every lead story, every day until the last buzzer sounds on the final game, has to be about It.

Brother Adam, The Iglovian Creed holds that it is possible to be a passionate advocate of freedom and a complete wackjob at the same time. Some of our most respected elders exemplify this axiom. There will be a workshop on this very issue at Polarcon 2012, and I hope you will contribute a lecture. Everybody raved about your talk at the last one. You nailed the question of "Contradictions - do they exist or not?" once and for all in my opinion, which like everybody else's was divided right down the middle. Keep up the good work. Also, if you see Brother Joel, or whatever he is calling himself now that he is a Member of Parliament and getting a swelled head,please mention those outstanding dues. Claudine says he is not answering his phone, it is always a "parliamentary assistant" who always just happens to sound like most of those women we had to take messages from, and he never paid for the long distance charges either. And if you see Claudine, of course I trust her completely, she is just there to work and serve the country, but if you see any men hitting on her I think it would be your sacred duty to punch them out. ISS Gord

MEM, there's a slight semantic confusion going on here[/s. I read X's original question to be, "is there such a group of Objectivists as described in the Randall post quoted above?" and I think you read it as, "is there such a group here on OL,?" My reply was, as you stated, without content. I didn't look up the references from the other sites, and in any case could not provide the excellent 411 that you did. I just kicked the ball and hoped it would be carried by someone qualified, which happened. I see that I appeared to hint of OL movie-trashers, but wouldn't back up the hint with evidence. But there aren't any that I know of; I haven't read every single post here (on OL) about the movie,so there might be, but don't know of them. I was thinking of what I read on other sites, and specifically of the Ed Cline connection as part of the Jonathan-ND OO discussion. As you read it my post was indeed "coy and without content": (also lazy),and you were right to call me on it. Hell, they're like that often, even without cross-purposes. But not this time.

It's gratifying to hear our leader praised, and for this. It balances the blame which Mackenzie King will always bear for his antisemitic immigration policies. A third PM, Lester Pearson, was a diplomat before he went into politics and was one of the strongest supporters at the UN of the creation of the State of Israel in 1948. From what little I know of Pamela Geller however, I hope that attracting her admiration will not stand among the highest of Harper's achievements. Good news on the valley - we have already identified a location, entirely fogbound year-round, invisible to and ignored by the surrounding countryside, and in desperate need of rational, idealistic inhabitants. It is known as "The Canadian Senate."

I quite like confessionals, as sometime erupt on OL, little vignettes of Look What They Did To Me, especially from George and Ellen. Phil wrote out a few. And in each of the good ones was a tang, a stimulating aftertaste, a moral, an emotion, a moment of truth. In the really good ones you can't quite exactly 'name' that emotion, but you can taste it and you would recognize it again in a flash. I think you do your good writing in the way an experienced cook does her treats. She can whip them up while yelling at the TV and disciplining the kids, while mentally doing her budget. In your better writing that effortlessness is well-married to the tang, and in the best a sense of grace deepens the good stuff. I like this one a lot, even if I haven't yet been quite able to name that tang. Bill dear, I thought you had forgiven me the forcible sibling adoption --Michael hasn't complained, nor have any of the others.You forgave me worse on the dear lamented rabbit farm, after all. You don't know what a day I've had. First Michael J Fox (BORING CANADIAN ALERT! Rational readers skip to next paragraph) gets the order of Canada and tremblingly speaks of Canadianness and we all know what he means. Then I read an article about Mark Chipman in the Post, and we're getting the Jets back. And yesterday right here twin kittens -brother and sister- who were taped into a box and thrown in the garbage by some nameless brute, were rescued by a conscientious park worker, on his lunch break. Then you hit me dead-on in the vanity spot, somehow knowing in that vast landscape of ignorance, false confidence aand actual knowledge, exactly where it is. Which is more than I know. Pushed over the brink, I intend to blat my eyes out for the rest of the evening, and I intend to enjoy it.

You'll put your eye out. Ba'al Chatzaf Your eye? Dear lord, I've never heard that one. There-s a saying that all mothers are Jewish mothers, and Maritime mothers are even worse than that (no offence Bob, you know what I mean). There's a whole book about them, I remember it's hilarious, and utterly true. Ma once said to me, Carol Jane listen, I've been thinking about this a lot. Maybe I should come and live with you and keep house. You know you'll never learn to keep house, it just isn't in you, and you should be concentrating on working and writing. If you'd just concentrate, you could do anything,the way you could have been valedictorian. This offer was utterly serious, I knew. But Ma tended to ruthlessly ignore inconvenient elements,when fixed upon a goal. What about Dad? I asked. Dad was her husband, whom she happened to adore, as did I. OH yes, she said. Him. He'd understand.

Is Don Albanesi referring to a specific group of Objectivists here? And what does he mean by "so-called" Objectivists? Xray, he sure is, I have read a lot about it. But I am hogging the board so much lately, I will leave it for others more interested and knowledgeable to fill you in. As with everything Randian, it's multi-interesting.

The sin of the fathers and the mother are thoroughly taught to the sons and the daughters. That is why the bad habits persist for centuries. As the twig is bent, so grows the tree. Ba'al Chatzaf Old dog, new tricks? Shayne Shayne and Baal, you are both right, but in this one Shayne is righter, I think. Ideas can be revolutionized within a generation of about 30 years, the Enlightenment and your own Revolution demonstrated that. Moreover, those who carry out that revolution are usually younger than 30, however long they live afterwards, remaining revolutionary and mopping up the blood with their highly absorbent, glory-stained rags.

I'm not familiar with these awards, and I am too lazy to look them up. Anyway I know they are not as good as the BOWs. But I was intrigued to read that the winners must limit their acceptance speeches to five words or less. This looks like great fun. I'm sure OLers can think up better mini-thank yous than a bunch of Webby winners whoever they may be. I'll start: "I really, really deserve this." "No thanks to you, Mom!" (this winner is Stephen Harper)- whatever he won for, he would stay on message) "On yer bike, Jack Layton!" Next, please.

For years my mother told me never to swallow my chewing bum. It would cause the sides of my stomach to stick together. Right. Ba'al Chatzaf Good grief, I've never heard that one. What is it with mothers anyway, whatever their education they have this intimate knowledge of the inside of the stomach, and what it's going to do in any possible crcumstance. This was only one of the informative things Ada told me about my stomach, and she wasn't even my mother, only Florence's.

"Michelle, ma belle Sont des mots qui vont très bien ensemble Très bien ensemble" Paul's French sounded a little strange ;) Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWVKQoRXhk Incredible, isn't it, that the Beatles still wore neckties in the mid-sixties! But still they were considered as 'revolutionaries' because they wore their hair somewhat longer than normal back then. The "Beatle haircut" was called 'mushroom head' ("Pilzkopf") in German. And this was only the beginning. A few years later, rock stars let their hair grow to shoulder-length and even longer. It looks like my preference for this male hairstyle was shaped back then, for to this day, I like it when men wear their hair long, regardless of their age. I agree. If there's anything uglier than a young man with no hair and his ears sticking out -- well, there isn't. Of course, Fortune's wheel turns and squashes us like always. My stunningly handsome son (I think so anyway) regularly shaves his head in the summer and just barely lets it cover his head in the winter. I haven't seen him even with bangs since he was three years old. His father let him get whatever haircut he wanted, or none. I voted for none, it was cheaper, but naturally, nobody paid any attention to my feelings.