Selene Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Don't forget the Whirling Dervishes - the man on stage who does not move is the Master: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Don't forget the Whirling Dervishes - the man on stage who does not move is the Master: Now that's what I call whirling!Drat you Adam, you have got me rereading an old Nadel when I should be doing my Assigned Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I love the Sufi saying that we become what we gaze upon.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Those Dervishes were spooky, and oddly serene and at peace like corpses. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Those Dervishes were spooky, and oddly serene and at peace like corpses. Peter Mr. Taylor:You got the serenity right.To achieve the "pleasing of God by working to restore within themselves the primordial state of fitra,[20""...the seeker may be led to abandon all notions of dualism or multiplicity, including a conception of an individual self, and to realize the Divine Unity.""The seeker is, in a sense, to become a broken person, stripped of all habits through the practice of (in the words of Imam Al-Ghazali words) solitude, silence, sleeplessness, and hunger.[56] ""A great influence was exercised by Sufism upon the ethical writings of Jews in the Middle Ages. In the first writing of this kind, we see "Kitab al-Hidayah ila Fara'iḍ al-Ḳulub", Duties of the Heart, of Bahya ibn Pakuda. This book was translated by Judah ibn Tibbon into Hebrew under the title "Ḥovot ha-Levavot".[76]The precepts prescribed by the Torah number 613 only; those dictated by the intellect are innumerable."=============================This is an extremely complicated belief system. I just took some snippets to whet your appetite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Don't forget the Whirling Dervishes - the man on stage who does not move is the Master: Doesn't that make them dizzy?Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Don't forget the Whirling Dervishes - the man on stage who does not move is the Master: Doesn't that make them dizzy?Ba'al ChatzafNot if they were dizzy to start with.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Those Dervishes were spooky, and oddly serene and at peace like corpses. Peter Woud be interesting to examine, via neuro-imaging techniques, which parts of the Sufis' brains get stimulated during the whirling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Don't forget the Whirling Dervishes - the man on stage who does not move is the Master: Doesn't that make them dizzy?Ba'al ChatzafNot if they were dizzy to start with.--BrantI think the trick is the tilt of the hat and keeping their heads on their side. That must help compensate for the inner ear confusion--all that plus a lot of training.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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