mrogi Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 (edited) Objectivism, like all forms of religious dogma, is a sublime doctrine on paper. It's foremost proponents do a magnificent job of articulating its ideals. Unfortunately, the devil is always in the details. It is an agonizing ordeal to be a physical manifestation of the perfection a mind conceives. Ayn Rand is the high priestess of Objectivist religion; yet even she could not overcome the faults, defects and shortcomings of being human. Ayn Rand was intellectually brilliant but an emotional basket case who debased herself in her relentless, depraved obsession with Nathaniel Branden. The latest high profile convert to the Church of Objectivism is one Troi "Star" Torain. His obesity and objective hatred will turn into existential optimism if he spends his time eating salads and jogging around Central Park instead or reading Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead. Edited September 10, 2007 by mrogi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Grieb Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I must say the phase "emontional basket case" about Ayn Rand is a bit over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bidinotto Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Hey, folks, I want to put up a challenge to you. Examine MRogi's post and see if you can identify (1) a single point of factual philosophical substance, and/or (2) a single point that's not an unsupported assertion.Come on. I dare you. Five bucks says you can't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Star,Is that you doing a publicity thing? If it isn't, it should be. Michael(I do owe Star a write-up on his excellent memoir, Objective Hate. If he's obese, that might be because he's rich.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvir9 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Conclusion:mrogi likes unearned adjectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Objectivism, like all forms of religious dogma, is a sublime doctrine on paper. It's foremost proponents do a magnificent job of articulating its ideals. Unfortunately, the devil is always in the details. It is an agonizing ordeal to be a physical manifestation of the perfection a mind conceives. Ayn Rand is the high priestess of Objectivist religion; yet even she could not overcome the faults, defects and shortcomings of being human. Ayn Rand was intellectually brilliant but an emotional basket case who debased herself in her relentless, depraved obsession with Nathaniel Branden. The latest high profile convert to the Church of Objectivism is one Troi "Star" Torain. His obesity and objective hatred will turn into existential optimism if he spends his time eating salads and jogging around Central Park instead or reading Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead.Hi, Victor! Welcome back. You may not be Victor, of course, but since you haven't introduced yourself except with this gratuitous and stupid screed, anyone is free to assume the worst.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Branden Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Is there anyone here who would like Mrogi to remain on Objectivist Livimg so that he may continue to hurl insults at Ayn Rand and Objectivism? If not, then he should know we are agreed that he should remove himself at once -- and that if he continues to post, he will be talkimg to himself.Barbara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrogi Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 Hello, Brant Gaede. I am flattered that a person of your brilliance deigned to read and respond to my stupidity. Unfortunately, those are moments out of your life you will never get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Mrogi,Speaking seriously, I do not intend to repeat an error of tolerance I made and watch the forum accumulate a large number of posts that are antagonistic to some basic standards. Please read the posting guidelines.There is a limit and you got to the edge right at the outset. If all you want to do is bash Rand, I can suggest some other forums that specialize in this. If all you want to do is antagonize OL posters, sorry, but I won't allow that here. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrogi Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 I plead guilty to heresy and blasphemy in the Church of Objectivism. My self imposed punishment is excommunication, permanent exile and banishment. Good Night and Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Grieb Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I agree with Barbara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laure Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 2 thumbs down on Mrogi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gagne Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Objectivism, like all forms of religious dogma, is a sublime doctrine on paper. It's foremost proponents do a magnificent job of articulating its ideals. Unfortunately, the devil is always in the details. It is an agonizing ordeal to be a physical manifestation of the perfection a mind conceives. Ayn Rand is the high priestess of Objectivist religion; yet even she could not overcome the faults, defects and shortcomings of being human. Ayn Rand was intellectually brilliant but an emotional basket case who debased herself in her relentless, depraved obsession with Nathaniel Branden. The latest high profile convert to the Church of Objectivism is one Troi "Star" Torain. His obesity and objective hatred will turn into existential optimism if he spends his time eating salads and jogging around Central Park instead or reading Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead.Hi, Victor! Welcome back. You may not be Victor, of course, but since you haven't introduced yourself except with this gratuitous and stupid screed, anyone is free to assume the worst.--BrantYes Brant, but if it were Victor, who would he have copied it from? :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gagne Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 2 thumbs down on Mrogi.Two? That's all I've got! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Yes Brant, but if it were Victor, who would he have copied it from? :whistle:Something Ayn Rand said about Kant?--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfonso Jones Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Objectivism, like all forms of religious dogma, is a sublime doctrine on paper. It's foremost proponents do a magnificent job of articulating its ideals. Unfortunately, the devil is always in the details. It is an agonizing ordeal to be a physical manifestation of the perfection a mind conceives. Ayn Rand is the high priestess of Objectivist religion; yet even she could not overcome the faults, defects and shortcomings of being human. Ayn Rand was intellectually brilliant but an emotional basket case who debased herself in her relentless, depraved obsession with Nathaniel Branden. The latest high profile convert to the Church of Objectivism is one Troi "Star" Torain. His obesity and objective hatred will turn into existential optimism if he spends his time eating salads and jogging around Central Park instead or reading Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead. What is this?If you have something based in reality to say, please say it. You have not done so yet.Alfonso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebelisha Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) Oh, please. Is this supposed to be an insult?mrogi is barely literate, at best. "Atlas Slumped", indeed.mrogi, go to the end of the line. Your offenses include:1) a failed attempt at (some weird version of) alliteration2) Intellecutal inability to come up with a real insult, i.e. all you can do is whine that Ayn Rand wasn't perfect, and whine about somebody else's weight3) Comparison of objectivism to a church - This is really boring. Better people than you have used that old rant for the past 30 years or so.4) You mentioned "relentless, depraved obsession". Couldn't you think of anything better than vague psychobabble?5) MelodramaYour Grade: FDo try to think of some new invective. Try a dictionary, or a thesaurus. Try reading Charles Dickens. It might give you an attention span, and show you the rudiments of cognitive fuction. Edited September 11, 2007 by Hellena Handbasket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Hellena,LOL...Welcome to OL. Your reputation precedes you (at least from what I've heard).Whatsisface signed off mumbling about blasphemy, a church, excommunications or sumpin. Do I let it through or don't I? Do I or don't I? (You ought to see what I get backstage...)She loves me, she loves me not, she loves me, she loves me not, she loves me, she loves me not, she loves me, she loves me not, she loves me...Oh all right. Here it is. (Post 10.)Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfonso Jones Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Is there anyone here who would like Mrogi to remain on Objectivist Livimg so that he may continue to hurl insults at Ayn Rand and Objectivism? If not, then he should know we are agreed that he should remove himself at once -- and that if he continues to post, he will be talkimg to himself.Barbara I have heard NO voices in favor of Mrogi...Alfonso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebelisha Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 My reputation?? Don't believe a word of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Hellena,You mean there's more? I tried to take Whatsisface seriously, but his rant hit me like watching an old Jerry Lewis movie on TV while doing a crossword puzzle.Hey!He said "basket case" and up pops Hellena Handbasket...Dayaamm!You guys ain't related or anything, are you? Maybe dating? Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Branden Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Helena! Welcome back from wherever you've been. You have been sorely missed.Do you have your old Atlantis posts? I'd love to reread them, and I'm sure the members of OL would find them a delight.Barbara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Stuttle Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Helena! Welcome back from wherever you've been. You have been sorely missed.Do you have your old Atlantis posts? I'd love to reread them, and I'm sure the members of OL would find them a delight.Barbara.Barbara....careful. Methinks you are being duped.Ellen___ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 On Google, there are a few Hellena Handbaskets from different parts of the world. The one from Georgia (the one here) has a penchant for using other monikers at times.Still, he/she looks like quite a character.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebelisha Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Thanks for the welcome, but I am not the same Helena Handbasket that you know. Since the name is already associated with someone you guys know, perhaps the Adminstrators will allow me to change it to something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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